Spiritual pathology of a fallen away church, the AOG and Elim cults. The folly of gold teeth theology. False pastors and elders: duping the elect in the convergence
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;updated 4/99 ,1/2000

What would you think of a 'normal' church that on closer analysis at its core turned out to be absolutely evil?

Item#1-foundation minister marries 3 times, yet his wives all die. None of them , technically, are 'suspicious deaths' , yet , spiritually , it leaves much to be desired. When a man and a women are joined  even in serial monogamy they are 'one flesh'- J'shua said He is the way the truth and the LIFE. If the minister has Christs spirit of life that is what he imparts to the church supposedly, and also to his wives in the 'one flesh' combination. When he unites with them-speaks his words of wisdom to them-and when he speaks to the church also as its minister, he should impart  the LIFE of Gods wisdom. He imparted death, that is obvious- such a clearly discernable blunder. He is spiritually culpable of their deaths and the impartation of its spirit- coming from the devil. So why did the church stick with him? Because both the minister and the assembly were set on evil. They were determined to follow their own lusts.They wanted a minister who to the worldly eye 'appeared' holy- not one who actually WAS holy. Even the ancient priest had to be able to discern between the sacred and the profane. His church, while proclaiming J'shua with their lips had its real heart in the camp of satan. They loved a show of religion, and money, too much. Such friendship with the world the Bible states is an abomination and an enmity to J'shua. They hate gods ways or else they would have the discerning mind of The Anointed One to care about such things. They do not care at all so they are of Babylon and the Anti-The Anointed One. All their 'words' are false prophecy. Evil is ever in their hearts.

Item#2-Subsequent minister had it pointed out to him that the building was on the site of a former cult that denies the Godhead of The Anointed One and the power of the Holy Spirit. He refused to listen as it jelled perfectly with his own views deep down. Nothing was done and the wicked pastor continued to behave as if J'shua were dead and the Holy Spirit non-existent.

A man during this phase danced like King David, anointed of the Holy Spirit in such joy of the Lord; it was genuine. However, unknown to that innocent christian worshipper, a rule had been made of which he was unaware, that ONLY the pastors wife! was so allowed to dance in the assembly (a sillier rule one could not imagine-for she danced in the flesh-exciting adulterous looks from the men)  Gliding along in that pretensious 'modern-dance' way. The man on the other hand was plainly anointed.

What did they do? They went to him secretly; not to inform him not to do it again for they had their rule to uphold-O no, they banned him entirely from stepping into their building for a whole year! Did they ascertain his knowledge of the rule? Not at all he was tried judged and to be punished entirely without enquiry from the man at all. They called good evil and their own evil good-in order to deny He Who Creates All Things ever again in their building such fulsome worship. As they have dismayed Gods Children so they shall in turn be dismayed at the Judgement seat of The Anointed One: THE BEMA.

Without a murmur-for a full twelve months, of extreme perplexity as to why that was, he did faithfully obey.Though it was wrong and entirely unjust.

Item#3-Interim minister came from another city where he was junior pastor to a man caught in adultery. Escaping this catastrophe he claimed no one (including He Who Creates All Things) told him a word.  Nor did he notice anything amiss-maybe subscribing to that new age view 'hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil', in the hopes that it will just go away. Such a wise and discerning adult maturity! Yet every Sunday he was always giving out 'words from god'. If He Who Creates All Things wasn't advising Him then who was?  Since he was blind to sins exactly when it mattered, what else did he miss-and why did he consider it wicked to have this pointed out to him? Where was the wisdom or the humility in that? Because he is of his master the devil! In whom, he in every way behaved as if he, conveniently, did not believe. Having, of course, stubborn as ever, 'made up his mind a long time ago' - he was closed to any further learning; especially from someone who actually knew something.

This minister once wasted $10,000 of offering money to go on a junket tour of South Africa during the white regime. He had no spiritual gifts to impart- none whatever. All the stories  of any spiritual nature he returned with ,were oddly, only OTHER peoples stories gleaned second hand. We were then hearing these (he at least, met those people!) third hand!

Further more something happened to him that I gave the interpretation to. He went up an off ramp the wrong way and ended stalled smack bang in the middle of dangerous Soweto! I told him it meant he had run out of spiritual gas and needed to hear the truth from a real plain talking christian and be born again.

He thought he was: yet wasn't - having only the counterfeit tongue.

So why do the assemblies of He Who Creates All Things accept such Godless ministers? Because they are the synagogue of satan just as J'shua said.

Item#4-A man put in a great deal of money to the church-as he was a manager also  so they made him an elder. An 'elder' in that assembly meant he could go around tapping people on the shoulder to STOP them worshipping He Who Creates All Things so fervently. Anyone in that church who really loved He Who Creates All Things they would eventually disfellowship for life. Especially if they pointed out how wrong it was to honour money. 'The wealthy' Paul said were to be happy in blessed humility and sell their extra homes and spare possessions for the poor of the church. No forgiveness or humility (that THEY could be wrong) was to be deployed at all for such ones. Their thought was' how dare someone love He Who Creates All Things more than what they themselves only pretended'.

Item#5-a man got down on his knees to drain the baptismal pool, then lay on his belly, flat prone to start the siphon action with a strong sucking vacuum-right there in the church. He was a mature gent, a former IBM executive, who loved nothing better than to get out his muscles, shovel and barrow dirt, bang nails, work outdoors etc Yet would he so similarly - as others did - lay flat on his face to lower himself before He Who Creates All Things? No! Not at all. He would bow to practicalities yet not to He Who Creates All Things J'shua. Consequently I counselled him more than he ever counselled me while he took the credit! His favourite saying was 'even the devil quotes scriture'- thus disarming the soldiers of the true faith answering him with truth and the only word that heals delivers and is victorious.

 He Who Creates All Things had plainly raised him up a 'help'. So what did these demonic 'leaders' do?- they made him a 'counsellor'-yet his favourite phrase, as I said, was'even the devil quotes scripture!' -he could not biblically advise anyone, and several suicides in his care paid the ultimate price.

Yet, in that same church, was a retired builder who gave the best biblical advice then possible. He was quite humble too and always allowed for one seeing things in scripture that he hadn't. He also knew that J'shua quoted three times as much of the sword of the spirit as Lucifer-and that the devil could ONLY be defeated by the word of He Who Creates All Things, much prayer and Cleansing the Soul. A thing that evil church otherwise never taught publically to its own members.They tied him up in time as a 'help'-a thing he could do only from the habit of his flesh-his real love was the giving of bible help or advice as an elder (he was an elder to me) yet they never acknowledged him as one. Does this, at this depth, begin to sound like your own local church? Come out from amoungst them said J'shua, lest you become tainted like them. Your salvation depends upon it.

Item#6-Two women with cancer on their deathbeds-one claiming she didn't know why at 45 the 'Lord' was letting her die? How could he? Had she not examined her heart-read many and most of the then current books on prayer-conducted prayer talks for womens aglow?-been acknowledged as an elder at AOG-yet had found no sin to think of. O, how wrong, if she had only known the scriptures-was she better than Job who abased himself in dust and ashes for the secret sin of pride?- and the scripture where it says '(s)he who say's (s)he sins not, the spirit of He Who Creates All Things is not in (her)him'. O how highly regarded was this wicked woman: further outlining the great sins of that evil church.

And the other woman?

She lay on her deathbed having visions of J'shua,'the blood, the precious blood of Jesus'.

She loved, had adopted children, a fine husband, friendly toward the apostle,was interceeded for VERY deeply in her home group (we had an answer from heaven!)

Though in pain prayed round the clock for all those she loved in the church. When she saw J'shua she did not want to go back he was so much more marvelous than all that she loved on earth.

Surely these are cases of the sinner at the back not daring to look up abasing himself; and of the Pharisee crowing how good he was to be so justified?

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Meanwhile in that wicked assembly, while these women lay dying-the head pastor and his public relations Guru used up some air-points to check out Toronto Airport Vineyard!

Beat that for callousness!

Item#7 While full-on men of He Who Creates All Things were deliberately overlooked , incompetent 'seeming-rights' were continually being promoted forward by the spiritually crooked leadership.Notably one young home group leader, new to the church, who was leader for quite some time before he sheepishly admitted he had never before even been water baptised! Did they then demote him for this deceit? No way-he was baptised as if nothing had happened-fully a member of the club mediocrity. I noticed he was given to the cruel teasing of one of the simple ones.

Item# 8-One favourite visitor to the pastors house turned out to be a child molester.Whom the Pastor welcomed there frequently.

Did the pastor lose his job for such lack of spiritual discernment?  Did he deliver the man? No he sent him away unforgiven to prison. While the foolish pastor was sent away for a 'sabbatical'-with full honours on his return. Yet Item#9- his other colleague is an undelivered suicide who creates suiciders wherever he goes-and he goes plenty because the leaders have him as a youth evangelist no less! A deadly ministry for the devil. Creating death instead of life.  They went over land and sea to make one convert; then they made him ten times worse than they were themselves!

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Hard to believe that all this occurs beneath the surface of just one little local church.

Naturally this evil little assembly preaches against tongues by relegating it to 'private or personal' use only-NEVER EVER interpreting the 'rubba-dubba' false tongues they have of course (once in seven years they did!-of course it was watered down so much you could wonder why He Who Creates All Things would bother to say it at all-for no notice is taken whatever!) They gaily  practices counterfeit sounds instead (chk0chk0chk-or-t'ch, t'ch, t'ch-or pi'h-pi'h-{'p,p,p' or 't,t,t' repeated}-preaches against the law, never mentions the possibility of the false or to seek for discernment (arrogantly believing-without question-that they already have it!) Once the idea of 'obedience to God'-not man: and 'the four living creatures in heaven' was mentioned -their response was to stifle it.  Particularly the 'Women Aglow 'elder. Not that they learned any lesson at all from her fate. How they hate He Who Creates All Things-and love the money  that such cosy, safe compromise, at first, brings.

Of course, more or less by default, they teach universal salvation- you know, the kind of salvation even for the devil-where crucifixion at skull place by the perfect lamb of He Who Creates All Things is virtually unnecessary. And universal 'forgiveness' -from the same throats as above - while forgiving, really, no one at all: pure hypocrisy! I do not preach either universal cutesy pie salvation or forgiveness - yet Ill forgive anyone anything at all if first they repent. Exactly as the real bible scripture has it. He Who Creates All Things is not stupid! They are, and so is the Luciferian light they follow.

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The word for this church is-'you shall lose one of yours a month until you believe'.

So far many of the former leadership have been removed from their place. My hope and prayer is that this will hasten it. Thanks be to He Who Creates All Things for His justice and mercy.

Item#10 NEPOTISM


Dead Gold

The folly of fools GOLD.

Elim cult in New Zealand goes for Gold teeth instead of the treasure in Heaven. Senior Elim Pastors in Wellington and internationally follow cargo cultus, to avoid the cost of believing Messiah J'shua, in order to make more money for themselves. Why would J'shua miraculously deliver 'fools gold' teeth instead of real ones? Why is the 'gold' found to be plastic glitter when examined? Because they are foolishly following money rather than J'shua. Come out from such deluded ones says the Lord He Who Creates All Things The Anointed One J'shua. The leaders at Elim cult are totally lacking in wisdom and common sense for supporting such fraudulent gold teeth claims.

One idiot pastor declared his daughter a living miracle on national TV. Except that a dentist also on the Paul Holmes Show (TV1) declared it was definately only her adult teeth coming through. We're now looking forward to the daft Lower Hutt Elim cult hireling being forced to resign over the fiasco. Don't hold your breath though, these days congregations exert a mad kind of fake 'loyalty' and unbelievable hold on to their phonies. Much of what goes officially under the name of Christianity is plain fraud. Begging letter scams abound from the Benny Hinn ministry for instance, yet Deuteronomy 14 clearly teaches otherwise(see my Stealing the Tythe for instance ) New Zealands commerce commission or the Dental Association ought to prosecute the false pastors for promoting fraud and dental scams. It is nothing but a spiritual get rich quick scheme. Their true He Who Creates All Things is money. Elim oil just runs through their fingers like stolen tythe money runs through an Elim pastors pocket. In seeking to be wise in their own eyes they become blind with the lust for golden glitter. The pity is the people believe in them rather than in J'shua. They would sooner have gold teeth than store up intangible prayers in heaven. This is nothing but the golden calf replayed, it makes He Who Creates All Things sick enough to vomit them out in the end. (See my Armaggeddon and Gog MaGog the two final battles a thousand years apart.)

All the above events are equivalent to ignoring scripture. They who do not have ears to heed the living word, will have even that which they have until now had, TAKEN AWAY FROM THEM! Pity of it is they will not acknowledge it in the stubborness of their hearts. their new blindness will keep them from realizing what has happened to them, they will be the last to see it. What truth before they knew truly they just shall be incapable of knowing or remotely seeing. Their blindness therefore would be total. They shall be dis-graced-literally!- and be made bankrupt, of riches or grace, so great is God's anger toward them. How dare they raise up the golden calf against He Who Creates All Things, and the 'shower of gold' against He Who Creates All Things, that foolish story and fairytale that was the abomination of Diana of the Ephesians! That Paul himself spoke against so fiercely- that the golden idol makers, under one Demetrius defended for their rotten lying income and employment!


Report on an Elim 'revival' at Wellington Town Hall, Thursday evening,February 17th, 2000. Mike and Jeannie Knott, Cindy Jacobs and Harold Cabaleros The meeting began significantly with Pastor Mike Knott declaring he and Harold Cabaleros 'partners in crime'. Indeed. My view of this meeting is that while there was much 'apparently' happening, nothing whatever of intended spiritual worth happened at all. There were two supposed 'healings' for instance that were as embarrassing to behold as they were inconclusive. A red faced lady indeed did feel the warmth of that embarrassement, but was it the healing power claimed? I think not- for no call to come down and dwell on it was extended-as there would have been if dramatic gestures had followed. The other was even less satisfactory. Both of course will have no follow up at all, no names were taken for that- giving proof of the leaders doubts about it. Here I must say that I believe wholeheartedly myself in miraculous instant healings and have seen so in the name of J'shua The Anointed One. Moving on from that fiasco- seemingly entirely un-noticed by the enthusiastic crowd who came to see their heroes do something/anything, in the name of missions and evangelism the 'call' was 'called' and hundreds streamed forward to give forlorn witness to their 'call' to Africa, their 'call' to Asia, and so on. We all know by now that few of these deluded fakers will ever actually GO out to preach in pairs alone to the unconverted as scripture instructs. Though a tiny number may travel on well organized junket tours to say words of basic greeting to the already converted in very safe church buildings! Calling such calls is at least taking the name of He Who Creates All Things lightly, or at worst is a lie to He Who Creates All Things for these are the very ones who will not so much as pass out tracts in well policed New Zealand, let alone knock on doors, visit the sick or in prison, or preach in a cafe, shop, home, school, to even one other person they know! Yet how they love to stop those so doing! The real likelihood is that none who went forward to such fake 'calling' will venture out at all to any foriegn parts even to visit, let alone to devote their lives in missionary work- yet having engaged in such fakery how much more willingly will the 'leaders' employ that type of device and delusion again. If a saleseman for a company only did such tomfoolery with no action to back it up he would be sacked straight away! Underneath the growing cynicism with such church phoniness is growing for at an interim stage of the three hour meeting, using a rude word a young pastor having assembled all pastors present on the platform summarily asked us to forgive them if they had acted like w*****s. To this utterance there was just a flood of perplexity! Someone was just not having a good day in hearing the Holy Spirit. Not that ANY of it was of course, I'd just come to check it out, my own dancing in the spirit and singing the new song was my only allowable witness amidst all the tame put-on fake versions apparently delighting many. Interesting how Cindy Jacobs picked on a diametrically opposite corner to call out descant whistling men. These had suddenly been released with the high rediant new song elsewhere. No doubt Cindy Jacobs cannot handle the genuine new song but markedly prefers the spirit of its emulation. Another moved by the spirit of emulation ( an evil spirit by the way ) is the leading pastor who mouthed away his customary, practiced, obligatory "rubba, dubba, hubba, wubba", at speed, ad infinitum. How can you interpret that? Not that he stopped for anyone to try. Again my own tongue is fluent, varied, rich, always new, (IT IS A LANGUAGE!) and I CAN interpret! Prominent in the aisles to my left was a man whose 'tongue' ,interpreted, was cursing J'shua! The presiding pastor Mike Knott had on a combined shirt and neck ribbon affair that had a right around circular collar. Always a fancy dresser ( contrary to scripture ) the total affect of this could not have been more calculated to look as much like a Catholic priests 'dog collar' without actually being one. I find this kind of thing a sign of deeper underlying currents. Cabaleros irrelevantly kept trying to bring 'Spain' into it- the crowd failed to connect that this is the antipodes of New Zealand. However this was aspiritual blinder to a teaching I HAVE BEEN CIRCULATING TO THE EFFECT THAT JERUSALEMS ANTIPODES LIES DIRECTLY ABOUT 200 MILES SOUTH OF MURUROA, AND TO THE NORTH EAST OF NEW ZEALAND. AND THAT THIS VAST EMPTY MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN OF PEACE IS THE ABYSS OUT OF WHICH THE DEVIL WILL ARISE 1,029 YEARS FROM NOW. ( Inquire of me personally for more on that philip_osullivan@mail.com) Funny how the devil emulates act for act anything significant being taught thought or done on Gods side. Therefore New Zealand is the furtherest large nation from Jerusalem, satisfying the criteria that the gospel has been preached to the ends of the earth. The 10/40 window has many multi lingual radio stations beaming into it the raw basic message. Besides there are numerically more christians in the window than in many so called Christian nations. I have sent Christian books into India, Sri Lanka, and Myanmar and are currently embarking on an invited preaching visit to Yangon, capital of Myan mar (Burma). Cindy Jacobs aroused the women in a shocking, shouting, screaming tirade straight from the pit of aberrent, arrogant feminism. There was nothing of He Who Creates All Things discernable in it whatever. This divided the audience like a fallen house-exactly as J'shua characterised all the devils work. In the statement 'if satan drives out satan (as in 'true' fake healings?) then satans house cannot stand'-and we know, in the end, satans house doesn't stand- so it IS a characteristic of his 'house'. it is a clue to us that J'shua gave. Before, Jeannie Knott had greedily snatched the microphone out of her husbands hand, brazenly calling on the 'girls' ( that didn't go down too well) to go to war! Jacobs followed that up with a vision where she saw women, not J'shua, on a white horse, others on black horses, and she herself, leading alone- on a chestnut. This from angel Gabriel; no less. Is this arrogance, arrant nonsense, wrong doctrine, prideful utterance or just stupidity carried away in an idiotic moment. For that in any case I for one Will not ever forgive her -for it is the most outrageous blasphemy against the claimed Holy spirit of Holy He Who Creates All Things to behave so nonsensically in the body of The Anointed One. I hope she never lives long enough to return to these shore again. This rampant arrant feminist curse has done such damage already as cannot be repented of. the real spiritual fruit of her false ministry is destructive and crazy. Women were behaving like fools doing shamanistic and hindu exercises just as they had in the Orange peoples, sanyasin sect of the machine gun toting Guru-moaning, cringing in pretend travail, vibrating in contrived anointings of evil, ( how very far from'go to your room' or 'inutterable groanings', which, again, I too know in the real secret closet work- only that which is yours in the hidden closet is ever really yours. I know there the true character of the tremblings, shakings and the deep shock to the frail frame of man of the presence of the eternal weight of glory- yes I am utterly Pentecostal-and by that I know the show-off, public, look-at-me, fake versions. ALL such are copied, stolen or glory-taking lies.) they will lead their practitioners down many years of empty handed 'faith' ending only in repentence or judgement. When Mrs Knott (the foolishness of women in person ) grabbed husbands mike he was crestfallen, a defeated man shamed in public for all to see, unable to rule his own household. He wore a sour expression for two hours after that. He made a false prophecy to lift himself! That the new oil declared found in Taranaki would somehow bless our economy: loud praise broke out!. I thought only of the last time of such rejoicing at Elim- a Cook strait ferry service company was explicitly prayed for in great gusto: it promptly went bust! One could see Taranaki Maori laying claim to it, then turning sour as to quality, quantity or difficulty of extraction. And how dismaying in that foolish New Zealand has so recently demolished its only oil refinery. If successful at all it will only delay the agony of our nations punishment for our officially condoned immorality. To sum up about 3,000 attended, at $5 each = $15,000 plus 'offering', = $20,000. Hire of hall is around $6,000 So $14,000 for Jacobs and Cabaleros and Wellington Elim Not bad for an evening where absolutely nothing of He Who Creates All Things occured. At least on the platform. Some revival I don't think. (However such spiritual fraud is now an industry, the Rally on Thursday was only supposed to be the 'high' point-it was far from that- a new low in Elim delusionism perhaps. The cost for the seminar week tapes as a whole is $250: the seminar itself something similar; and that must have made many, many thousands more. They had their reward already in the broad way that leads to destruction. ) THINK WHAT COULD BE DONE WHEN REALLY IN THE NAME OF J'shua! cf: http://www.50megs.com/oracles/index.htm Artworks and HTML design see also http://www.freeyellow.com/members7/artmuseum/index.htm

Oracles of Divinity from the BIBLE    Philip John James O'Sullivan         updated4/99

................................................................ || Whirling Dervishes || Stars and Angels || Fear Nought || Rest in the Anointing || Gaps in your Peace? || Strong Story || Utopia and Shangrila ||Blessing in Leadership Ordination || Retaining Wealth on High || Experiential Luxury || Self Revelations || Cleansing the Soul || Living Forever || Asserting the Self? || Gracious Conditions || Cleansing water and SPIRIT immersion. || Vibrant principles for Future Living ||