Apostles:True and False(apostle.htm)
Discerning between true and false apostles:ONE-the false rarely risk even the question of the false compared to the biblical true. Fame and Money also mark the false
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True and False Apostles


17 There will I make the horn of David to bud: I have ordained a lamp for mine anointed.psa132:17

Are APOSTLES of He Who Creates All Things or of Men?

Only an apostle would know! That is for a start. An apostle-whether false, or true- must know or believe himself to be one: and he must have believed it of himself from the first. When did Paul become an apostle: when he fell off the horse? when he returned from seven years in the desert? ( note; he did not go to Bible College! neither did Abraham.) did apostle paul 'become an apostle' through mighty works? or preaching? or service faithfully rendered? did he attain apostleship via an experience in the Heavenlies? by vision or prophecy? was it by the laying on of hands? or by being sent out by the elders? No! none of these things- for he obtained it from He Who Creates All Things himself.

(Jer 1:5 KJV) Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nations.

How many must a man heal-or how many true prophecies come to pass before a man IS a prophet. None.

(Hab 1:12 KJV) Art thou not from everlasting, O LORD my He Who Creates All Things, mine Holy One? we shall not die. O LORD, thou hast ordained them for judgment; and, O mighty He Who Creates All Things, thou hast established them for correction.

Prophets and apostles correct. That is how they build-up the body. Are we teachable? Are we so secure in the confidence we have in The Anointed One J'shua that we can handle anything? Is he not the strongest Spirit you can have- so therefore nothing whatever can dismay us.Here of course the correction is for others disposed.

(Mark 3:14 KJV) And he ordained twelve, that they should be with him, and that he might send them forth to preach,

Go out and preach- that is Jesus' instruction. That is what preaching is for. Not for the cowardly safety of an indoor thrill 'preaching' or is it 'lording-over',or 'play-acting'- 'preaching to the converted'. That is always false and contributes to the weakness of the church. Our actions, 'preaching indoors' (to keep the gospel dry) speak louder than our words. How can we get the best preachers to speak of The Anointed One to the unconverted when the best funding, highest regard and honours go to those indoor play-actors? Most people who then turn up to so called in-house 'evangelists' meetings- and' go up front' are already christians; thus increasing the unreal sense that such duplicity and hypocrisy is the normal Christian thing. We may think we are helping out the so called 'evangelist'- while really avoiding the most simple and basic obedience to The Anointed One He Who Creates All Things. So
'evangelism' becomes a mere shadow play and The Anointed One a lie to thousands. Do we think He Who Creates All Things does not see all this?
(John 15:16 KJV) Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
If we go forth fruitfully *THEN* he will give us what we ask( in order to support those who support the bringing of glory to His name!)- and how very different this is from what the false prosperity teachers tell.
(Acts 1:22 KJV) Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his Living Forever.
To join with real humble apostles is a fearful thing! Do you know that not one person has yet announced along with me that he or she agrees with anything I have said to you: yet people who have outright denied to acknowledge when they could so easily have or I have virtually asked them to, have died. I do not threaten death to anyone-nor do I desire the death of any yet note merely those who could help and did not have since gone away, been removed or died. On the other hand He Who Creates All Things says any one who helps even with a glass of water obtains a reward-not according to the water- but according to the status of the one whom he helps. So help not a lying teacher or you shall have a liars reward in the pit of fire: help rather an apostle in humility and be set in the heavens forever as a friend of apostles! Shine like a starry angel in an eternity full of the Holy Glory of our darling sweetheart J'shua Adonai!
(Acts 10:42 KJV) And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of He Who Creates All Things to be the Judge of quick and dead.
As J'shua was ordained of He Who Creates All Things so are all Blessing in Leadership.
(Acts 13:48 KJV) And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.
Ordinary believers are also ordained of He Who Creates All Things: chosen by J'shua Ruarch J'weh: Elohyim or conjoint Godhead all together before the foundation of the world.
(Acts 14:23 KJV) And when they had ordained them elders in every church, and had prayed with Cleansing the Soul, they commended them to the Lord, on whom they believed.
Believing He Who Creates All Things, Cleansing the Soul is a prerequisite to Gods approval of whatever we do . The Greek shows this to be the spiritual ones whom Messiah J'shua has ordained with the fire of the Holy Spirit. All such men are 'Elders'-it is not an 'office'. All are spiritual elder to any other genuinely seeking more of the spirit of He Who Creates All Things- the company helps yet is not essential to the spiritual advance of anyone. Otherwise Elisha keeping company with thieving Gehazi would be a thief and not a prophet. Note also that only one healing is made anything of-the servant girl back in Damascus is not reported as released, Namman still goes to the foreign temple and other healings ( the servant girl recommends the prophet on this basis) are without detail.
(Acts 16:4 KJV) And as they went through the cities, they delivered them the decrees for to keep, that were ordained of the apostles and elders which were at Jerusalem.
That these have any force at all is entirely because of their derivation from He Who Creates All Things.
(Acts 17:31 KJV) Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead.


(Rom 7:14 KJV) For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
The apostle admits here that he is a sinner
(Rom 13:1 KJV) Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of He Who Creates All Things: the powers that be are ordained of He Who Creates All Things.

(Rom 13:1 KJV) Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of He Who Creates All Things: the powers that be are ordained of He Who Creates All Things.

(1 Cor 9:14 KJV) Even so hath the Lord ordained that they which preach the gospel should live of the gospel.
The labourer is worthy of his hire: muzzle not the ox.
(1 Tim 2:7 KJV) Whereunto I am ordained a preacher, and an apostle, (I speak the truth in The Anointed One, and lie not;) a teacher of the Gentiles in faith and verity.
NO NEED OF MINISTERS
(Heb 8:2 KJV) A minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
As we have a higher priest in heaven directly available to us twenty four hours every and forever in prayer and worship.
It is now sin to go to a priest on earth, spurning the priesthood of The Anointed One.
(Heb 8:4 KJV) For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:
So priests on earth bind us to the law!

(Rom 1:1 KJV) Paul, a servant of J'shua The Anointed One, called to be an apostle, separated unto the gospel of He Who Creates All Things,

(Rom 11:13 KJV) For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:

(1 Cor 1:1 KJV) Paul, called to be an apostle of J'shua The Anointed One through the will of He Who Creates All Things, and Sosthenes our brother,

Paul is called to apostleship from He Who Creates All Things himself. For he was taught of the spirit in the desert{ Philipians} and saw J'shua in visions.

(1 Cor 9:1 KJV) Am I not an apostle? am I not free? have I not seen J'shua The Anointed One our Lord? are not ye my work in the Lord?

(1 Cor 9:2 KJV) If I be not an apostle unto others, yet doubtless I am to you: for the seal of mine apostleship are ye in the Lord.
There may not be outward recognition yet inward and spiritual acknowledgement of the fruit of apostleship: raising the dead and healing the sick can abound in the vicinity of an apostle yet not be directly attributable to him. Just as with Moses and Arron: to many it must have looked that Arron or anyone could have such humble power. Moses was the most humble man of his time.
(1 Cor 15:9 KJV) For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of He Who Creates All Things.
Herein is Paul's humility displayed and instituted. Such a sinner, known as so to the church, prayed for by the church, healed by the church, himself fruit of the church; is alone given preeminance in writing up the New testament Scripture. Does ANY of that pertain to the big names today? Do you know your pastors specific details of his sins? Why not? How can you trust a man we do not know really: salvation is too great a matter to be left in the hands of someone not fully transparent toward the Holy Ghost as was our apostle Paul: this is what I aim to be before you all, then I'll be as a man amoung you who cannot get above himself. For you will know as decently as possible all the necessary low down dirt on me-I'll be free of it- and then we can all see what He Who Creates All Things alone can do with it, from a life lived also in prayer and meditating on the spiritual reality of the Full Counsel of He Who Creates All Things.
(2 Cor 12:12 KJV) Truly the signs of an apostle were wrought among you in all patience, in signs, and wonders, and mighty deeds.
Expect therefore miracles and wonders: do not stand around either blinking or with a stop watch, miracles are over in the twinkling of an eye. Paul being so great yet few miracles instantly spring to mind. The ministry of miracles and healing is a small part only of apostleship: where it is made much of watch out for the quality of Glory given to the authority of the name and blood of J'shua. Do not follow ministry that features the minister on the cover in preference to our master Physician the Saviour Anointed, Immanuel. On that basis ALONE ( NO OTHER EVIDENCE NEEDED) the ministry of Kenneth Copeland must be a false ministry! He also misleads in regard to tongues ( he has a counterfeit) and in regard to the apostasy or falling away ( of course! because He's part of it! Pray, that he come out of it, humble himself, give credit to J'shua alone, confess his faults: I speak as one who speaks in tongues more than most men around me, who has seen the dead raised to life and the sick healed and other mighty works of J'Shua Messiah- having seen with my own eyes the tongues of heavenly fire twice and other mighty occassions. No true minister has to 'promote' himself to the extent of greediness, sickening wealth and luxury, watching others squirm under his demonic powers!2 chron 11;15
15 And he ordained him priests for the high places, and for the devils, and for the calves which he had made.
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The love of MONEY is the ROOT of ALL EVIL: it is everywhere, in all times and all places the very mark of the Hired 'Shepherd'. Do I speak against any true healing UNDER even these men? Not a bit of it! He Who Creates All Things is merciful. Even the Jews healed whom He Who Creates All Things characterised as satans synagogue! He did not validate THEM, while healing PEOPLE. As HE IS the LORD-THAT-HEALETH not the minister! Just do not do WHAT they do. Do not chase money.
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apostle Philip, Humble love slave of Adonai

Philip O'Sullivan

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